so, yes, there will be a "new bible" released at this annual meeting.
worst kept secret ever.. however, the new bible will no longer be called the "new world translation".
again, this is pure speculation, but it would kind of make sense since the term "new world" is very mason-y, old-time jw-y, and doesn't appear in the bible anyway.. what they would call it, i couldn't even guess..
So, yes, there will be a "new bible" released at this annual meeting. Worst kept secret ever.
However, the new bible will no longer be called the "New World Translation"
Again, this is pure speculation, but it would kind of make sense since the term "New World" is very Mason-y, old-time JW-y, and doesn't appear in the bible anyway.
What they would call it, I couldn't even guess.
the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.
if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?
they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.
Why drop it?
Provides a lot of "hoopla" at very little expense.
reading idly through this magazine , i read the study article "rejoicing in our hope" which discusses the two "hopes" according to the wtbts ie heaven & earth.. a couple of points were of interest:.
(1) absolutely no mention at all of the 144,000 or rev 14. usually an article like this would be filled with references , but it isn't even mentioned.
it does discuss the "limited number" , but only in contrast with the "no man can number" great crowd.. (2) a much more laid back attitude towards the two hopes.
Bumping, as I think this might be the big news at the Annual Mtg.
my curiosity is killing me, and i don't have access to a cd rom right now, so here's my question:.
how many "hits" does "144000" get in the magazines over the past 5 years or so?.
my prediction is that mention of "the 144000" has been decreasing steadily over the past few years, as they move towards phasing out a literal interpretation of this scripture.. thanks,.
My curiosity is killing me, and I don't have access to a CD Rom right now, so here's my question:
How many "hits" does "144000" get in the magazines over the past 5 years or so?
My prediction is that mention of "the 144000" has been decreasing steadily over the past few years, as they move towards phasing out a literal interpretation of this scripture.
Thanks,
BOC
- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.
- new bible.
- new nwt (revision).
The implication was that it will be bigger than last year's FADS=GB
Heard this, too.
Again, I'm putting my chips on the literal 144k going bye-bye.
attention all uk congregations: .
the december 15th 2013 study edition contains a study article which will be used to 'prime' the sheep for fleecing in 2014 - in order to finance the new uk branch complex.. for those who are prepared to speak up on behalf of their hard pressed brothers and sisters, raise your hand and ask one relevant question before the elders' probable resolution/s - either to send a chunk of your congregation's bank balance to mill hill, or for each publisher to 'pledge' as much as they can;.
"can the body of elders explain to the congregation why the new branch isn't being self- financed by the miions gained from the sale of all the london properties?
So are we (and I am using the term 'we' quite loosely) suggesting tithing, not by the individual, but by the congregation?
this file is being passed around by jehovah's witnesses concerning adjustments in understanding the 2013/7/15/watchtower.
the first draft they prepared had a typing error, and nevada sent the draft back to the jws for correction.
they corrected the typing error and sent it back to nevada.
fyi: 'the thinking atheist' podcast this week will be on jehovah's witnesses.
should be fun!.
Interesting. Thanks!
this is a really great video about how the original pronunciation of a language, during the time a play was written and performed, can affect the feeling and meaning.
i thought it was interesting.
enjoy!.
Great video! Thanks for sharing, fascinating.
over the past couple years, i've confided my whole "apostate experience" to one of my coworkers, everything from 607 and 1914, to disfellowshipping and being raised with the constant fear my worldly family would die in armageddon.
so he knows the whole witness thing.. anyway, he tells me this experience he had on tuesday:.
you wouldn't believe this, boc.
Addressing some of the credibility issues here. . . .
This guy isn't the type to yank you around. He's a pretty straight-shooter, and this story was unsolicited. There's nothing for him to gain out of it, and honestly we haven't even discussed my JW issues in quite awhile.
As for the plausibility of two JWs discussing doubts openly at a Starbucks - entirely possible! In fact, it tells me I need to be more careful when I discuss this stuff with my coworker and others in public!
I more got the impression that whoever was doing the doubting didn't fully realize what the consequences of coming out (and doing so in public) could possibly be.
